Follow up to : Indigo and Connected Systems Talks at NIMTUG in Belfast
Many thanks to NIMTUG in belfast for the invite and to the many folks that attended the talk. Its very hard to give a talk, with a fridge full of beer at the bottom of the room 
You can get the slides for the talk at this link.
Since I feel that many of the questions were quite pertinent and relevant to usergroups in IRL, I thought I would jot down a few notes and responses; hopefully help out.
To start with the low lying fruit:
– Yep my blog is a mess, sorry, I have been adding code/features to the DasBlog engine (such as delayed publishing, fixing a few bugs, a new stats engine that uses SSB and Yukon for the heck of it and a weak attempt at a port of the core engine to Whidbey), and hence some of my downloads have been broken, I will look into this and either revert pack to the offical release and/or fix the problem. So give me a few days on this and the downloads will be fixed.
– Again we have lots of new folks joining the usergroups that have a serious want for information on VC++ information, in regard to VS2005 and how to move VS6 VC++ code to .NET and/or the new VC++ in VS2005. Give me a few days on this one and I will put together a collection of links etc… that I have found very useful and hopefully they will be a help. For me, I am very delighted to hear different folks mention this at the last number of usergroup sessions I have been at (in Dublin and Belfast) and I totally agree the VC++ team should be more visible with what they are doing, as there is not as much material out there when compared to other langusages, but I think the reason for this is fairly apparent.
– A HUGE many thanks to the folks that are still giving me feedback on the System.Transactions talk. As I have said to many folks before, I personally perfer concept based talks, as I like to give some suggestions on perhaps some new ways of thinking about patterns, uses of technology etc I really do very appreciate the fact that many folks like the way that I tackle the concepts first and it seems really helped folks think of transactions in a totally different way.
– For me, probably the best question of the night, happened before the talk even began. “Has WinFx become very confusing” ? My answer, ABSOLUTELY. Once more with feeling, AAABBBBSSSOOOLLLLUTTEEELLLYYY? For me it is becoming very hard to understand what is being downstreamed, will it be downstreamed to W2K3/XP or will it be W2K3 R2 etc………
There was many other interesting things happened at the talk, such as an ex-member of the Avalon team was present at the talk, WOW. And did I mention the fridge full of beer at the end of the room!!! Damn, should have brought a camera.
Also, there was a few areas that I had to skip, as I was running out of time, mea culpa, but since many folks were new to SO, I thought it would be best to spend more time on that.
Examples would be:
– I did not cover in depth how Indigo is host agnostic, in that it can be hosted in IIS, EXE, Windows Service (sometimes still referred to NT Service), plus many other options. – Yep, I did not cover WAS (the Windows Activation Service). This was mainly due to time, but in fairness this is probably one area that is probably subject to the most change over the next while. – Other things I have to followup on include, the P2P stuff from MS (Rob might give me a hand with this one), lots of Q’s on Interop (both on papers/examples), custom transports/bindings in Indigo (which is a good blog entry I think), some Q’s about E12 (the next version of Exchange, I don’t think there is much out there yet, as its RTM is a bit out, roughly Longhorn Server AFAIK), some of the papers I referenced during the session, more material on SO (as some folks had never heard of it before), plus many more questions (the NIMTUG guys have made a list and Damien will forward it on to me) and If I missed your questions, please let me know.
As I am going to off for the next few days, it will probably be Monday before I get back to answering all of these, so please bear with me.
Many thanks again for the great questions and feedback, it gave me lots of ideas about what I perhaps should change in the presentation (but it is a very large topic) and also blog a little about. Especially interop with services using today’s stack, as you generally have to fight with the tools so much, it is not even funny! Lots of folks seem to be having issues here and there is quite a bit out there, such as the latest version of the MSDN magazine, where Aaron Skonnard has written an excellent article on this topic.
I was very particularly interested to hear the comments about VC++, Biztalk and IT-Pro. Yep, this is probably something that needs more attentation across all of the usergroups, as it is not the first time I have heard this feedback.
When I get the time, I will update this blog entry next week and follow up with more details that will hopefully help with the questions that many folks raised.
Ciao for now,
Rgds,
– Paul
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